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Modulo operation

Thanks for your improvements to the modulo operation article. Can you please fix this sentence you added, though? IEEE 754 defines a remainder function where the quotient according to IEEE standards. The sentence itself doesn't make sense (something is missing after the word "quotient"), and the link should be rewritten to avoid a redirect: [[IEEE 754-1985|IEEE 754]]. Thanks! —mjb (talk) 17:17, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi

Hi Richard... Yeah, we did meet last year. I hope you're well. I shall take a look at WikiProject Mathematics now. Thanks for the tip. Declan Davis (talk) 20:36, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:Quadric Ellipsoid.jpg.

No problem. It was a judgement call on my part (perhaps a bad one) and should be reviewed. -Regards Nv8200p talk 19:39, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

References

Richard, could you help me with David Trotman's page? There are lots of external links in the text which need to be removed and replaced with references to external links. I don't know how these work. I've added the command line to get an automatically reference list from the exisiting references and it's not turned out quite right. I guess the in text references, as they stand, are incorrect. Let me know if you can help, and if you have any tips for referencing. Declan Davis (talk) 19:15, 19 September 2008 (UTC) p.s. have a read of the talk page too. Cheers.

Thanks for clearing those things up. I'll get the hang of it in time, I'm sure. When you suggested I join the maths Wikipedia project, is there something to actually 'join', or is it just a page that I should read often? I had a look at it, but I couldn't see anything to actually join. What's the deal?  Declan Davis   (talk)  14:38, 21 September 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Declan Davis (talk • contribs)

infraneologism

Hi, the article inframetric is a good candidate for deletion, I would not waste time on edits there. Katzmik (talk) 11:25, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Indeed. I was was doing a mass fixing of redirect, and quite a few questionalble articles came up. Separoid is another likely AfD candidate. --Salix alba (talk) 11:58, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
The latter may be justifiable. Their '02 paper (involving numerous authors and not just the creator of the page) already drew 7 cites in mathscinet. Ten years ago this would have been a neologism but it certainly gained a wider acceptance than inframetrics. Katzmik (talk) 14:01, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Plant Math

Hi, Salix. I saw your singular edit over at mathematical proof (where I responded to it) and thought I would come over here and tell you what your name meant, but saw your user page and you beat me to it. I am writing the Flora of the Santa Monica Mountains contrib, and I am in up to my ears in a project to restore the LA River right now, where Salix still is king (at Glendale Narrows), with some nasty non natives trying to depose him, and I recently explained the etymology of a little plant named Chamaesyce albomarginata to a kid in the part. I like your pre Feb 06 Pfarfetched name, too. EricDiesel (talk) 23:42, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

List of edible flowers

Hey, on the list of edible flowers you forgot the tastiest edible flower of them all, Feijoa sellowiana! I fixed it. And they forgot to write this fact in the main article, so I fixed it, but may have violated NPOV in my description there. EricDiesel (talk) 00:04, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Ship of Theseus

I helped to build an EXACT COPY [1] of the Ship of Theseus, with the Extra Action Marching Band, later altered, modernized and renamed to La Contessa, out in the Blackrock Desert. I contributed the hemp silk lining and the authentic lanterns (OK, they were from India, but still hundreds of years old), and helped do the soundtrack. I was one of the drummers and dancers for the associated Extra Action Marching Band, but I quit prior to the 2005 Hollywood Bowl gig, too mainstream (the main stream it sailed up was the Blackrock desert).

This would be a different paradox. To what extent could an exact copy be considered as being the same object? --Salix alba (talk) 08:56, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
"Note to [your]self: keep clear of philosophy." - user page of the White Willow EricDiesel (talk) 13:50, 22 September 2008 (UTC)


Indra's Pearle's and New Sections in "Mathematical Proof"

What, have you hacked into my life? I co-choreographed anopera about Indra, with "pearls", in 1998. It had 2,000 performers and an audience of 30,000 people. It, too, was in the desert, performed during a night time eclipse of the moon, during a violent storm (a perfect storm, in fact). The interesting thing was that I was pulled in to help with the choreography, as a Butoh dance teacher for the Melancholic Sect at first, but more importantly, as a probabilist, as the choreography degenerated due to shuffling problems, as the dance rehearsed with a small group of people in SF, was enlarged to include 2,000 people. The opera was called "Temple of Rudra", and I am the guy in the vintage vaudville top hat at the very end of the "documentary" of the same name, by Dean Mermell. EricDiesel (talk) 21:18, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

  • More seriously and to the point,
I included the Indra's Pearls quote you provided in a new section, "Heuristic and Experimental Mathematics without Proof", but did so without reading the source context. Did I do so correctly?
Also, I added a number of sections, which User:Gandalf61 first objected to without merit ("'Statistical' Proof is covered in 'Probablilistic proof'", "These multiple new sectoins should not be included"), then with merit ("original reasearch", "essay-like", "too long"). I am new at Wiki, so would like another opinion, if time, as to the appropriateness of the sections, and the content therein. Thnx EricDiesel (talk) 19:18, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
I think I'm taking a mid ground between you and Gandalf. I'm guessing we will see many iterations before we get to an article most people are happy with. I would say it is one of the more difficult maths articles as it is so wide and open to many different views.
It takes some time to get use to the way of wikipedia and the sort of content which is really appreciated Wikipedia:Writing better articles might be worth a read. There is a big difference between an essay and an encylopedia article. The ideal is to acheive a Neutral Point of View which is almost the opposite of trying to make a case for something. --Salix alba 21:37, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
thanks, will do EricDiesel (talk) 22:57, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Mathematics

Hello... FYI, I've restored the conversation at Talk:Mathematics as it should remain for future reference. However, to help facilitate the discussion, I've removed the quote from the web site. (As explained at Wikipedia:Editor_assistance/Requests#Please_Remove_Copyrighted_material_from_Wikipedia.27s_servers, it was in no way a "copyright infringement".) Thanks. --Ckatzchatspy 08:10, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Peter Giblin's Page

I was trying to put together a Wikipedia page for Peter... he has seven published books and over 100 articles! I've tried to do it the best I can but there seem to be problems with my refs. I've got the hang of making refs, but now there's 'link rot'. The refs are the the British National Library, but some user doesn't think that that's good enough. PLEASE HELP!  Declan Davis   (talk)  02:44, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

p.s. Just help me with the links. I want to do the article. Cheers.  Declan Davis   (talk)  02:44, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Declan Davis and friend

Dragons? You think? [2]. --jpgordon∇∆∇∆ 14:41, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Fairly good evidence indeed. Declan is fairly new here, so has not learned the ropes yet, but could be a useful editor. I don't really know why he would want a sock, it seems that its mainly a username switch as there is only overlap for a few days. --Salix (talk): 15:28, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
Richard, I'm sorry that this has caused you problems. Josh has come to a natural conclussion. Both Dharma6662000 and I use the same PC: we share the same flat. He was the one that got me into Wikipedia to start with. As I said to Josh on his discussions page we can agree to not comment on each other's work in the future. I think that proposing a block for one or both users on the first mention was a bit heavy. A polite note about Wikipedia policy may have been more in order. But anyway, point taken: it looks a bit dodgy.  Declan Davis   (talk)  22:53, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
No problem. Getting use to wikipedia ways takes some time, and it can be a rough ride. --Salix (talk): 23:00, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
I suggest that the Dharma6662000 account be deleted and the Raul start a new account for himself. This account was original opened under my name and as such does provide a conflict of interest. Could you please block the account now so that no-one can suspect any foul play? I'd rather you did it than anyone else. Once again, I'm sorry that I caused you any problems.  Declan Davis   (talk)  23:04, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
OK done. --Salix (talk): 23:08, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Talk Pages

Sorry... I didn't know. I didn't want people to read that on my talk page and get the wrong idea about me. I seem to spend more of my time getting told off that I do editing. I'll get there in the end.  Declan Davis   (talk)  00:38, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

mathematical software

Hello there. Can you tell me the name of the mathematical software/programming language you were using in trying out the various graph colorings in regard to my question yesterday. I think it might be useful for me too. Thanks a lot. Regards--Shahab (talk) 05:29, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

import java.util.Arrays;
 
/*
Created 27 Sep 2008 - Richard Morris
 */
 
public class GraphCount {
    int n; // no of vert
    int min = Integer.MAX_VALUE;
    enum Colours { NULL,RED,BLUE };
    boolean cols;
    /**
     * @param args
     */
    public static void main(String args) {
	(new GraphCount()).run();
    }
 
    private void run() {
	for(int i=3;;++i){
	    n=i;
	    cols = new booleannn;
	    min = Integer.MAX_VALUE;
 
	    cols01 = true;
	    generate(0,2);
	    System.out.println("i "+i+"\t"+min);
	}
 
    }
 
    private void generate(int i,int j) {
	if(i==n-2 && j==n-1) {
	    colsij = true;
	    count();
	    colsij = false;
	    count();
	}
	else if(j==n-1) {
	    colsij = true;
	    generate(i+1,i+2);
	    colsij = false;
	    generate(i+1,i+2);
	}
	else {
	    colsij = true;
	    generate(i,j+1);
	    colsij = false;
	    generate(i,j+1);
	}
   }
 
    void count() {
	    //System.out.println(Arrays.deepToString(cols));
	    int nred = 0;
	    int nblue = 0;
	    for(int i=0;i<n;++i) 
		for(int j=i+1;j<n;++j)
		    for(int k=j+1;k<n;++k) {
			if(colsij==true && colsik==true && colsjk==true) ++nred;
			if(colsij==false && colsik==false && colsjk==false) ++nblue;
		    }
	    //System.out.println("red "+nred+" blue "+nblue);
	    if(nred+nblue<min)
		min=nred+nblue;
    }
 
}

It gets extreamly slow after n=8, I ran it for most of the day and it did not calculate n=9. --Salix (talk): 06:45, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. --Shahab (talk) 06:49, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

ISBN Numbers

Hi Richard. Where did you get the ISBN numbers for Peter G's article? Do you know a good site? All the Google searches want to find a book given the ISBN or, worse still, sell me something!  Δεκλαν Δαφισ   (talk)  17:40, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

I often use amazon, their sales pages have ISBN's on. Most library catalogues have this info also. --Salix (talk): 23:19, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Julia Sets

How does one link to a difference page? Before you'd made your comment I had worked out how to find the user, and had found the difference page showing my changes, it was http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Julia_set&diff=prev&oldid=242767998 but how do you make that into an internal Wikipedia link?  Δεκλαν Δαφισ   (talk)  16:12, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

I'm afraid you can't make it an internal link which have the [[Julia set]] format. You can however use single square brackets for external links and include an alternate title [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Julia_set&diff=prev&oldid=242767998 diff] which makes diff. --Salix (talk): 16:22, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
p.s. I love that new tool you recommended. Wikipedia just gets better and better ;o)  Δεκλαν Δαφισ   (talk)  16:32, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

...named after George Direction (1492–1686)?

Is there a reason to capitalize the initial "d" in "direction cosine"? Michael Hardy (talk) 17:56, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Nope, no reason. It was a very quick page creation after realising that WP didn't have any info on these. Article is leaving much to be desired. --Salix (talk): 21:20, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Available energy

I noticed your comment, "It would be interesting to see data which showed the energy it would be technically possible to extract from each source." and had tried to consider this, but with no reliable source available, which seems credible, it really seemed impossible to do this without doing a lot of synthesis. For example, it is easy to find estimates of how much wind energy is available, and how much solar energy is needed, and if you look at the numbers it is interesting to note that we already are extracting I believe about half of the available hydropower, although that seems implausible. Anyway, like I said, I thought about it, but the best I could find is how much we are currently using (shown in Image:Ren2006.png), and how much the total is, shown in the Available energy diagram. It also seems that economics is a bigger factor in determining how much can be extracted than any other factor. By the way, the person who originally created the diagram has left Wikipedia. I have updated and improved it only because of a desire to display the relative sizes of the data in a meaningful format. All data was carefully taken from a single source to avoid complaints of synthesis, although it was meaningful to provide a separate reference for consumption. Delphi234 (talk) 20:55, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Indeed it is a big ask and porobably not possible. I'am a little worried that the image could overemphesis the potential for solar power. --Salix (talk): 21:12, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia guidelines

Hi Richard, sorry to bother you again. I have a question about UK and US spellings. I have read somewhere in the WP guidelines that if an article relates to the UK then the UK spellings are prefered, and if it relates to the US then the US spellings are prefered. I can't seem to track it down anymore. All the guidelines that I can find on the UK and US spellings seem to be quite neutral; but I know I've seen it somewhere!  Δεκλαν Δαφισ   (talk)  11:09, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

To de-bother Richard: It's in the subsection "Strong national ties to a topic" under WP:ENGVAR. --Hans Adler (talk) 12:45, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
 :o) Thanks.  Δεκλαν Δαφισ   (talk)  12:55, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
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RE: Coins

Hi,
Thank you for the help!
So what I need it's only somebody to look if everything is ok in the COinS in a template. The template is fr:Modèle:Article (is the same one as Template:Cite journal in english). I took the text from the english template and only translate the parameters to fit with those in french. For now, the template don't have COinS, but I have a page were the template is exactly the same, with the COinS (it's here : fr:Utilisateur:Riba/Périodique,the COinS are at the end). I have also a sand box were I am doing tests when I working on the template (fr:Utilisateur:Riba/Bac à sable). The only problem is that I'm not able to know if the COinS are working! Can you?
You can modify any pages you want. I don't know if you understand french, so if you need help, don't hesitate. Thank you! --Riba-- (talk) 13:40, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

The following script may help, you can use it with greasemonkey on firefox or include it your monobook.js. It finds and parses the tags produced in the coins data and dispalays they one per line

// ==UserScript==
// @name           Coins
// @namespace      wikipedia
// @description    display Coins information
// @include        http://*.wikipedia.org/*
// ==/UserScript==

var tags = document.getElementsByTagName("span");
for(var i=0;i<tags.length;++i) {
 var tag=tags[i];
 if(tag.getAttribute('class') == "Z3988") {
  var title = tag.getAttribute('title').replace(/\+/g," ");
  var parts = title.split("&");
  var res=""; //<br/>" + title + "<br/>";
  var o = new Object();
  for(var j=0;j<parts.length;++j) {
   var keyval = parts[j].split("=");
   var decoded = decodeURIComponent(keyval[1]);
   var replaced = decoded.replace(/[\[]http(\S+) ([^\]]*)[\]]/g,"<a href=\"http$1\">$2</a>");
   //res += keyval[0] + "=[" + keyval[1] + "]<br/>\n" + decoded + "<br/>\n" + replaced + "<br/>\n";
   //res += "["+parts[j]+"]";
   res += keyval[0] + "=" + replaced + "<br/>\n";
   if(keyval[0].substring(0,4) == "rft.")
	o[keyval[0].substring(4)]=replaced;
  }
  tag.innerHTML = "<br/>" + res;
 }
}
/*
var cites = document.getElementsByTagName("cite");
for(var i=0;i<cites.length;++i) {
 cites[i].style.display="none";
}
*/
Ok. And after that were I'm supposed to see these COinS? --Riba-- (talk) 00:47, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
You should see a list of the COinS parameters one per line directly after the reference.

For example

Viollet B; Andreelli F; Jørgensen SB et al (January 2003). "The AMP-activated protein kinase alpha2 catalytic subunit controls whole-body insulin sensitivity". J. Clin. Invest. 111 (1): 91–8. doi:10.1172/JCI16567. PMID 12511592. PMC: 151837, http://www.jci.org/articles/view/16567. 

Should render as

Viollet B; Andreelli F; Jørgensen SB et al (January 2003). "The AMP-activated protein kinase alpha2 catalytic subunit controls whole-body insulin sensitivity". J. Clin. Invest. 111 (1): 91–8. doi:10.1172/JCI16567. PMID 12511592. PMC:151837.
ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004
rft_val_fmt=info:ofi/fmt:kev:mtx:journal
rft.genre=article
rft.atitle=The AMP-activated protein kinase alpha2 catalytic subunit controls whole-body insulin sensitivity
rft.jtitle=J. Clin. Invest.
rft.date=2003
rft.volume=111
rft.issue=1
rft.au=Viollet B; Andreelli F; Jørgensen SB ''et al''
rft.pages=91–8
rft_id=info:pmid/12511592
rft_id=info:pmc/151837
rft_id=info:doi/10.1172/JCI16567
rft_id=http://www.jci.org/articles/view/16567

--Salix (talk): 08:03, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, it's not working. I don't if it is the COinS or my monobook... --Riba-- (talk) 20:19, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

PubMed links

PMID links in Cite journal aren't working, and I saw this change; any connection? SandyGeorgia (Talk) 02:22, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Update, no, don't think it's related to cite journal, because they're also not working at Tourette syndrome, and I didn't use cite journal there. So that's not it. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 02:23, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
They seem to be working fine for me both in the live version and also the sandbox version
--Salix (talk): 08:07, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
Correct; PubMed was down yesterday, now it's back. Thanks for looking (someone was tagging PMIDs as faulty when in fact the problem was with PubMed). SandyGeorgia (Talk) 17:51, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Astrophysics Data System

I added the references based on what he suggested on my talk page and also the fact that you said the information was no big deal to get. Guilt trip for me! It looked reasonable, but my brain is fried. Maybe you could give it a glance. Thanks, —Mattisse (Talk) 22:05, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

citation punctuation

(copied over from TT:Citation:) Can we have this returned to previous punctuation? Both moves here are moves backwards, in my view. Thanks. --jbmurray (talk • contribs) 09:18, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Benjamin Franklin Medal Link

This may be a bit trivial... Your uncatagorised maths page User:Salix alba/maths/uncategorised maths#1101 section 1101 links to Benjamin Franklin Medal This is the Royal Society of the Arts page. There is no "math" on either page. Did you want your link on 1101 directed to the Franklin Institute page? I was planning on moving Benjamin Franklin Medal and providing a Benjamin Franklin Medal (disambiguation) page. Thanks! Jim1138 (talk) 09:52, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

That page is very out of date and no longer in use. Ive commented out the Benjamin Franklin Medal link. --Salix (talk): 12:31, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Triangle topics

I see that you created the article titled Viviani's theorem a year-and-a-half ago. I just added it to the list of triangle topics today. If you know of others that should be there but are not, could you add those too? Thanks. Michael Hardy (talk) 17:28, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
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